About the 2 macs and 1 linux on a LAN

Steve srj at adnd.com
Mon Jul 17 09:44:21 PDT 2000


FYI,  I have this exact same Kingston card in my linux box at home and it
has worked solid for almost a year now.   =)  The Tulip based cards in my
opinion are great cards for Linux.  Usualy dont have any problems with them.

-Steve



On Sun, Jul 16, 2000 at 03:09:17PM -0700, John F. Kohler wrote:
> ME wrote:
> 
> > First, appologies to E Frank Ball as I changed the order of his name to
> > Frank E Ball on accident in a previous e-mail.
> >
> > Also, the files he mentioned are very likley the files you could edit by
> > hand and follow his directions if you card's interface was recognized
> > properly.
> >
> > More comments below...
> >
> > On Sat, 15 Jul 2000, John F. Kohler wrote:
> > [chop]
> > > I did get an error
> > > "delying eth0 initialization"
> > > and some other stuff
> > > Something about /lib/something and "tulip" (the driver for my ethernet card
> > > from Kensington)
> > [chop]
> >
> > I went to Kensington's web site but was unable to find reference to them
> > making ethernet cards. (Mostly a mouse company for Macs ;-)
> >
> 
> Whoopsie.  I should  hav recognized the difference.  My wife has a ** kensington
> ** mouse on her iMac
> I have a Kingston ethernet card in my Linux Box.
> 
> 
> 
> >
> > Is it a Kingston? (If it is, I do the same thing. I'll make typos, or even
> > re-arrange word order when typing.)
> >
> > Kingston EtherX KNT40T
> > Kingston EtherX KNE100TX
> >
> 
> Model is KNE110TX
> which has an instruction sheet for Linux installation.
> 
> >
> > are stated to be supported. What model/version do you have? A different
> > one?
> >
> > Also what kernel version do you have? (Sorry, I don't know what ships with
> > Red Hat 6.2.)
> >
> 
> I had to reboot to see the kernel version, even though I know there is a query
> that can
> be perfomred at the command-line
> 
> Kernal version is 2.2.14-5.0 on i586
> that came with my Red Hat 6.2
> 
> I am afraid I don't yet know how to upgrade a kernel version.  I have seen
> higher versions on
> the Red Hat RPM mirror sites.
> 
> >
> > If you do not see a link light, you can look into some command line
> > options to append while inserting the module for it with modeprobe.
> >
> 
> There are 4 led indicators on the back of the ethernet adapter card, 3 of which
> are lighted
> when the CAT-5 cable is plugged in.
> 
> 
> 
> >
> > Some of these extra options/names are described here:
> >
> > http://www.scyld.com/network/tulip.html
> >
> > and that is a tulip support page.
> >
> > (I prefer the lilo method with the append and things like
> > ether=0,0,media-type,eth0 after I am certain of the arguements that are
> > needed, but I run mostly servers which almost never change. For a desktop
> > machine, you may want to change your media (10BT,100BT,AUI,10B2, etc)
> > often, or experiment.  This would suggest keeping the module method as
> > being better for you.)
> >
> > That URL also offers links to a diagnostic program that may be helpful. (I
> > have never used it, so I can't comment.)
> >
> 
> I ran a short diagnostic program from Kingston, after having booted DOS (UGH)
> from a floppy
> I have on hand.  I inserted the   "Q-Start" program from kingston, and started
> it.
> 
> When it ran  I saw displayed a "node address" similar to the MAC you described
> earlier.
> 00-C0-F0-5B-10-5D
> 
> >From what I could gather from Q-Start, at least under DOS commands the cpu talks
> to the
> ethernet card.
> 
> >
> > You may also look to Kingston for software to configure the card. I cannot
> > comment on the Kingston cards, but there were some problems with some
> > ethernet cards when they were set to use PnP (Plug and Play) mode to
> > configure IO/IRQ resources used. Explicit resource allocation seemed to
> > work more nicely in linux for some of these cards. ( A few evil, vile and
> > contemptable generic NE2000 cards come to my mind - yak!)
> >
> 
> I am not committed to the Kingston card just because it was free (left at my
> house
> by DSL installers).  I am perfectly willing to purchase a known successful
> ethernet card.
> I have heard that one must check a graphic card carefully since Linux must have
> a driver
> for a variety of manufacturers, and in the graphics arena, new drivers are being
> written constantly.
> 
> >
> > Also, as a related item to my previous questions...
> > Is your card PCI, ISA, etc? There are some ethernet interface devices that
> > are connected to the USB port...
> >
> 
> PCI, I think...
> 
> >
> > (I have zero experience with USB and Linux right now. I only know what I
> > have read on the subject.)
> >
> 
> I know USB is implemented on the iMac, and can be present in some Windows95
> computers.
> 
> >
> > If you happen to have any USB devices, you may want to look to using a
> > beta (pre-release) 2.4 series kernel. I believe that 2.4 looks to add
> > support for a lot of main-stream USB stuff. I would not suggest using this
> > kernel as a production server, but as a non-critical desktop machine it
> > might be fine. (This does require you to configure and compile a kernel.
> >
> 
> The only USB here is in the iMac for keyboard, mouse and printer use.
> 
> My PC has serial ports for keyboard, mouse, modem  and parallel port for
> printer.
> 
> >
> > If you have never compiled anything before, then this task will be more
> > time-consuming to master than a DHCP server.) None of the main-stream
> > distros (that I know of) presently offer a 2.4 series kernel. (It is that
> > new, and still is not in "final" 2.4.0 release.) The distro maintainers
> > are waiting like other people, for the bleeding edge users to find the
> > bugs and report them. Often (in the past) once the kernels got to
> > double-digits, they were stable enough for production use and kernel
> > release cycles happened less frequently.
> >
> 
> I have never compiled any Linux program before.
> 
> >
> > Just some more information, and suggestions for directions in
> > troubleshooting.
> >
> 
> Really appreciat any and all of your comments.  I am like a blind person walking
> in a dark
> forrest.  I am running into a lot of trees that jump in front of me.
> 
> >
> > More leads are better than no leads eh?
> >
> 
> Much.
> 
> >
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> John
> 
> >
> > Thanks,
> > -ME



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