[NBLUG/talk] Are all SEO and social networking builders scams?

[Anet Dunne]

Wordpress is optimised for Google and offers powerful SEO plugins and
techniques for speeding page loads.

- from my phone please excuse brevity and typos
On Mar 6, 2015 10:14 AM, "Omar Eljumaily" <omar at omnicode.com> wrote:

>  Anet, Wow thanks for the wealth of information.  I noticed the slow page
> load phenom a couple of times when I switched a website from a rather slow
> ISP to hosting on a local server with a fast connection.  The search engine
> hits went way up.  Same thing the other way around where hits went down
> after switching to a slower website format.
>
> It begs the question for content management systems like Wordpress that
> tend to be very slow and very often run on crowded shared hosting sites.
> It's nothing scientific, but I tend to get better hits with very
> streamlined text oriented sites rather than gumming things up with Flash
> and lots of javascript.  I think you touched on that.  I have a suspicion
> that Wordpress in part is an invitation for people to spam you and for
> search engines to ignore you.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Omar
>
>
>
> On 3/6/2015 8:10 AM, Anet Dunne wrote:
>
>  Omar, your instincts are right, and I am saying this as an SEO
> specialist.  There is legitimate magic, which is essentially making your
> site readable to Google.  Remember the old days when people had expensive
> Flash websites?  Search engines could not understand the content of the
> site, so the expensive website did not get good page rank.  People like me
> fixed problems like that.  Same for websites that were just big pictures.
> Their owners thought these websites were artistic and dramatic.  They were
> actually rocks on the Internet that no one could find.  As recently as a
> few years ago, Google could not determine the content of an image, so text
> had to be created on the page or in the HTML markup, and links had to be
> easy for Googlebots to follow.
>
>  I found a business in San Rafael who was spending thousands each month
> on Yellow Pages advertising and whose 70 page website couldn't be found on
> the first seven pages of Google results on a search for what he did.  I
> built a seven page "front-end" for his website so that Google could
> understand what he did, and could find the 70 pages, and his business
> jumped to the top of the organic results (free results) in WEEKS!.  Now,
> most of his new business comes through Google advertising and search and he
> has cut his Yellow Pages expense by 90%.  http://www.artisticcellars.com/
>
>  Here's an example of one of his old pages.
> http://www.artisticcellars.com/makeover.html  These pages are still up
> because the SIZE of the website, and HOW LONG it has been on the Internet
> are factors Google includes in its algorithm for "Trust," a factor in page
> rank.  Back-links are still King for Google, but this too can be shilled,
> (see FiverR, below).
>
>  Regarding Twitter, and getting a lot of followers quickly, here's where
> lazy SEO people go to get things like that done.  You can get almost
> anything for Five Dollars, hence the website name.
>
> https://www.fiverr.com/
>
>  So, yes, there are legitimate techniques and yes, there are scammers.
> Right now, the best way to improve your Google page rank is to make sure
> your website loads fast and to optimize it for mobile.  Google checks every
> website for speed and responsiveness, and the results are part of your page
> rank score.
>
> On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 8:14 PM, Glenn Kerbein <
> glenn at spontaneousdancing.net> wrote:
>
>> SEO is some other calibre of voodoo.
>> I tried it before, and it's not so great. There are some Google tools
>> that will work for you - their AdSense program is great.
>>
>> Shill followers will bump your relevance on the Twitter. After that,
>> you'll get an equivalent set of legitimate users, and by then the shill
>> users are irrelevant or unfollow you.
>>
>> Best of luck,
>> Glenn
>>
>> On 03/05/2015 02:30 PM, Omar Eljumaily wrote:
>> > I guess this is marginally related to Linux since it's all running on
>> > LInux essentially.  I got a spam email today that said it would
>> > guarantee 2,000 Twitter followers or your money back.  Are there
>> > legitimate techniques for building such followings or do they use
>> > non-legitimate means like shill followers?  I suppose shill followers
>> > would boost your ego as well as make it appear that you're more
>> > interesting than you are.
>> >
>> > Same for SEO in general.  The main issue for SEO as far as I can tell
>> > are back-links.  Are there shill back-link sites?  I suppose search
>> > engines would be wise to them.  Any legitimate SEO techniques?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Omar
>> >
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