[NBLUG/talk] What controls the "prompt"?

[Todd Cary]

Here is the result of getting the permissions for /dev/ and /dev/ptmx:

drwxr-xr-x   21 root     root       118784 Aug  4 11:53 /dev
crw-rw-rw-    1 root     root       5,   2 Jan 30  2003 /dev/ptmx

I have not been able to find any entries in /dev/pts under any 
circumstances.

Todd

ME wrote:

>This suggests issues with one of the following:
>Permissions of a dev, File Locking, permissions to one or more required
>libs/shared-objects.
>
>Examine Mitch's e-mail message and check your pty ownership and tty
>owenership in /dev.
>
>If after working through the permission of dev ptys, you still find no
>success, then I'd like you to perform a trace of the startup of the
>gnome-terminal and send it to me (not the list as the attachment will be
>too big.)
>
>-ME
>
>Todd Cary said:
>  
>
>>Another piece of information is the keystrokes are being processed by
>>the system in that the blink of the cursor stops if I press some keys
>>and after a second or so, resumes blinking.
>>
>>Todd
>>
>>ME wrote:
>>
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>>>So you are saying the results of the suggested test provide no file in
>>>/tmp  when you tried from the broken terminal window?
>>>
>>>Imagine typing "blind" and after you paste that (or something like it)
>>>into the "broken" terminal and press return, you won't see any text. Then
>>>check to see if the file is there.
>>>touch /tmp/my.file
>>>touch /tmp/your.file
>>>(etc)
>>>and check to see if the files actually are there in another window.
>>>
>>>We need to diagnose this:
>>>
>>>Is this a problem with the display of the terminal (not showing you any
>>>I/O even though it is actually doing the work) OR
>>>
>>>Is the terminal "hung" in a kind of "wait state" where no IO is going on.
>>>
>>>Once we have an idea which is the issue, we have started the process of
>>>diagnosis. However, I can't help much without feedback on results.
>>>
>>>-ME
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Todd Cary said:
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>Except it works fine if I am logged on as root.....that is the
>>>>bugaboo....iI just have to get to root and I can only do that with KDE
>>>>terminal mode...then "gnome-terminal" brings up the Gnome terminal with
>>>>prompt.....
>>>>
>>>>Todd
>>>>
>>>>ME wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>Try this:
>>>>>Start the terminal that does not display anything.
>>>>>Paste in this text:
>>>>>
>>>>>touch /tmp/test123.txt
>>>>>
>>>>>Then go to a terminal that does display text.
>>>>>See if the file /tmp/test123.xt exists.
>>>>>
>>>>>If it does, then I would inspect the number of BPP you have selected
>>>>>for
>>>>>your card (8bpp?) and see if the window manager/env manager has just
>>>>>used
>>>>>up all of you colors. Parhaps KDE does not use as many colors as Gnome.
>>>>>
>>>>>If you have an XFree86.log (check /var/log) please send that.
>>>>>
>>>>>-ME
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Todd Cary said:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>Eric -
>>>>>>
>>>>>><<<
>>>>>>Do you mean that when you're not root and run the terminal, it comes
>>>>>>up
>>>>>>without any prompt
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Correct!  No prompt...just a white screen/window.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>This is RH 9.0.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I did not notice this in the beginning since I set the default to KDE
>>>>>>where everything runs fine...in fact, coming from Windows, I am very
>>>>>>impressed.  Then one day I decided to "take a look at Gnome".  When I
>>>>>>tried to bring up the Terminal window, there was no prompt (I thought
>>>>>>it
>>>>>>was a keyboard problem).  By going back to KDE and using the
>>>>>>"gnome-terminal" command from it's terminal window I was able to gleen
>>>>>>the information I have presented.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Todd
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Eric Eisenhart wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Mon, Aug 04, 2003 at 05:54:08AM -0700, Todd Cary wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>If I bring up the Gnome Terminal ("gnome-terminal") and I am root,
>>>>>>>>all
>>>>>>>>is well: I get the root prompt.  However, if I am not root, the
>>>>>>>>terminal
>>>>>>>>window comes up without the prompt.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Do you mean that when you're not root and run the terminal, it comes
>>>>>>>up
>>>>>>>without any prompt, or that it comes up with something different than
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>root prompt?  Does a terminal window appear at all?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>What Linux distribution are you using?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
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