[NBLUG/talk] domain name registrar which uses spam list on outgoing mail?

Kendall Shaw kshaw at kendallshaw.com
Thu Nov 29 14:15:40 PST 2012


Hi,

The thing about the MX records was about how the domain name hosting 
service relays spam through the server with the ip address that my MX 
records are set to.

So, I could pay for hosting a mail server as well as domain name, as you 
say. I repeatedly learn about mail servers set them up and leave them 
unchanged for a long time. I then forget how to maintain them and have a 
big hassle when I have to change something. If that is the only option 
I'm left with, I will do that. But, people manage to use email without 
running into this problem. So, there must be a solution. I imagine a 
hosting company might be more likely to care about their servers being 
on spam lists.

I can't send email from my home because the ISP blocks it.

What do companies do that have email forwarded? They can't have their 
customers' email rejected. I guess they send an employee out to find 
another domain name hosting service. I don't want to do the same thing 
as that employee. I doubt spamhaus answers email with recommendations. 
Maybe I will try.

Kendall


On 11/29/2012 01:31 PM, Mitch Patenaude wrote:
> MX records only apply to incoming mail, and from reading your post, it
> seems that it's outbound email that has a problem, and the two aren't
> necessarily the same.  This is a sticky problem, and their aren't any
> surefire answers.  There are things you can do that might help.
>
> 1) If you have the ability to edit your own DNS, the you could add an SPF
> record for your domain that matches their outbound server(s).  This will
> tell people that their outbound server is *supposed* to handle mail for
> your domain, which should help.  It'll look something like:
> kendallshaw.com.         IN  TXT "v=spf1 mx ip4:XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX/NN -all"
> kendallshaw.com.         IN  SPF "v=spf1 mx ip4:XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX/NN -all"
>
> 2) If you are up to setting up your own postfix/qmail implementation on a
> virtual server somewhere, then you could just move off their mail servers
> altogether.  You can also just handle the outbound email via your own
> server. I'd suggest implementing DKIM as well, though that's not strictly
> necessary.
>
> These are a bit advanced, so if you need help setting them up, there is
> likely somebody here who can help.
>
>    -- Mitch
>
> On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Kendall Shaw <kshaw at kendallshaw.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> If this is too far off topic, I apologize. I have email forwarded to my
>> ISP by my domain name registrar (I use fetchmail to put that in an imap
>> server. so that's how this is related to linux...). Their host that relays
>> email for my account gets on the CBL at spamhaus. So, people who send me
>> email get an email back that seems to be saying that I am a spammer. This
>> is a disaster.
>>
>> The registrar tech support people that I talked to said that they won't
>> move my MX record to a different host and that there is nothing that they
>> can do.
>>
>> If I understand correctly, the host that relays email to my ISP could use
>> a spam detection service, for example spamhaus, on email that they relay,
>> and take preventative measures.
>>
>> Do you know how I can find a domain name registrar that doesn't get it's
>> servers on spam lists frequently? Aside from asking each one and hoping to
>> be understood.
>>
>> Kendall
>>
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